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Irresistible: F-22s Would Send a REAL Signal to Israel & Iran

Get Your Bona-Fides Obama

A lot is made of the fact that President Obama & his administration is considered somewhat unfriendly to Israel. Ya, sure Jewish Democrats deny it but they are certainly not fooling us Israelites very much. But there are ways to show the love..

 I have a bunch of posts on the F-22 here at the hash going back a while, mostly detailing our unsuccessful attempts to get some of the sexy beasts into the IAF stable before my brief period of mourning when the F-22 was canceled.

A Quartet of USAF Raptors  - Back in Blac.. er matte silver?

A Quartet of USAF Raptors - Back in Blac.. er matte silver?

I Have a Dream..

No, I’m not a famous civil rights icon but I nonetheless dream about the F-22 doing air superiority antics with a blue & white star painted on its wings. Which is why when I hear that the US Congress has not given up on the Lockheed stealthy wonder I start to get excited and my periscope goes up. JPOST’s resident military affairs journalist (and one of the best I might add) Yaakov Katz mentioned the plane this weekend, it would be hard to resist..

The Israel Air Force will review the possibility of purchasing the advanced American F-22 fifth-generation stealth fighter jet if a congressional ban is lifted, enabling it to be sold abroad, defense officials told The Jerusalem Post on Thursday.

Referring to recent reports in the US that Congress had asked the Air Force to submit a report on the possibility of exporting the jet to Japan, Israel and other allies, a senior defense official said if this happened, “we will have to consider the option.”

“This is an advanced fighter jet of superior capabilities,” the Defense Ministry official said. “It will depend, though, on the price, availability and time frame.” Congress’s interest in continuing funding for the F-22 runs counter to US Defense Secretary Robert Gates’ decision to stop production of the aircrafts.

Israel is already in advanced talks with the Pentagon regarding the possible sale of the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) – also known as the F-35 – to Israel. Both planes are manufactured by Lockheed Martin, but Israeli defense officials said the F-22 was capable of flying at higher altitudes and could carry more weapons internally.

“A lot will depend on the outcome of the ongoing talks regarding the JSF,” the defense official said. “If the export ban on the F-22 is lifted, things may change.”

To Quote Van-Damme: “It doesn’t look too good, Lyle..”

Gates has already nixed us a potential suitor for the plane, and he’s also as mentioned already nixed the whole program. So a Congressional inquiry into exporting the aircraft to Japan & Israel is likely to be met with terse and stiff recommendations, removing us Zionists from being contenders. There’s only one way I see Israel ever getting near the F-22, the President would have to get on board. That would loosen up Gate’s recommendations and it would also please the Congress who would surely muster support to export the aircraft in my opinion.

Even better, the deployed nature of the aircraft & slow wind down pace of the lines would mean that we would be seeing it more quickly than usual as there’s not much pent up pressure for deliveries currently.

Pro-Israel or Pro-Platitudes?

If the President who maintains how great our alliance is wants to show off some of those Pro-Israel bonafides, I can’t think of a better way than this as proof of mutual affection. Currently, we can’t get access to much of anything weapons wise, the Administration and Gates himself seem to be limiting us stretching back to the Bush admin as leverage regarding Iran & strikes.

That being said, I don’t think Obama is very pro-Israel at all, and I don’t think he would approve of the F-22 going to Israel in the least. If the US wanted to send its allies a real signal, send Iran a real signal, it would embrace creating jobs and securing American interests in the region by exporting the F-22 and keeping the option open to stock up on more for US purposes as needed.

Right now, judging by the pacifist and appeasing nature we’ve seen. Judging by the hostility to Israel we’ve seen, and seeing as Obama is afraid of Iran.. We won’t be flying F-22s any time soon imho. I’d be pleased to eat my words.

Ace looks at the bird and shreds the latest junk science calling for it to be scrapped over at the HQ. The comments are excellent as well. And what about the F-35 you say? The half decade long negotiations, insulting export terms, and near tripling of purchase costs have tempered my zeal for the as of now totally untested craft. Lockheed & the Pentagon have been screwing us around – We ought to plonk the near 20 billion dollars buying something else..

Confirmation: US holding Israel back on Iranian Strikes

Haaretz confirms a number of previous posts here at the Hashmonean

Weapons requests denied, Aluf Benn has an article up about denial of air corridors (IFF Codes) and certain weapons platforms to hold Israel back from striking. Much speculation has been floating about on what those weapons were. I looked at the topics in these posts below;

Haaretz confirms advanced JDAM munitions (Bunker Busters) were rejected, and doesn’t specify which ‘advanced technology’ was denied but I covered both above sadly in this post: No F-22 For You: Gates squashed Israel’s big hopes

Benn also looks at the reported request for 767 mid air refueling tankers, noting that such a request would take several years to fill which is the reason I was skeptical about that piece of the puzzle here: Totally Tankered? : Let me add some fuel to the 767 fire

Brothers in Arms? Not so much when it comes to Arms requests lately

All in all, Secretary Gates can huff and he can puff, but in the end if we decide to blow the house down that is exactly what we will do. It is one thing to talk about pre-emption and preventing cataclysmic WMD events in the USA, another thing entirely to expect us in Israel to look at the matter any differently. Bush may have made pre-emption famous, but we kinda invented it. On this sad anniversary of the horrific mass murder attacks of 9/11 that message is even more poignant. We won’t be waiting around for the surprise Nuke to go off that’s for sure, I think Gates has overplayed his hand needlessly, instead of preventing Israel he has only made the chances of Israel’s failure should it strike higher.. Rummy, he is not.

It should be noted, some of those bombs denied are previously approved weapons purchases; Special delivery please: Israel requests ‘Iran Busters’