Cruising down J-Street: Obama Attacks Likud, Biden Attacks AIPAC!? (UPDATED Biden threatened AID cut)

‘Biden won’t take a back seat to no one’.. Except maybe to Iran
(Updated damagingly below)

In a strange supportive mixed-message play at American Jews & Media in the US Biden re-inforced his strong support of Israel, stating that Israeli decisions should be made in Jerusalem, that’s certainly sound and appreciated. Oddly, he then went on to trash AIPAC which is not..

[...] The Vice Presidential nominee vowed that the United States will “always standby Israel, without telling Israelis what they can and cannot do.”

Biden dismissed the prominent role played by the pro-Israel lobby AIPAC, saying the group “doesn’t speak for the entire Jewish community,” and it “doesn’t speak for the state of Israel, no matter what it insists on any occasion.”

The Delaware senator also attacked critics who have questioned his support of Israel saying, “I will take a back seat to no one, and again, no one, in AIPAC or any other organization, in terms of questioning my support of the State of Israel.” [...]

Obama Biden Call Shotgun in J-Street front seat?

The new hard left ‘Progressive Lobby Group’ J-Street seems to have deep ties to the Democrat ticket. Despite being nearly totally unknown, clearly not in Israel’s best interest policy wise, and not having anywhere near the support of Jewish Americans compared to AIPAC, if any. But J-Street does have something quite clutch – Obama & Biden fans it seems. It’s no wonder why, when you look at the ticket’s foreign policy spiel..

[...] Biden also questioned the wisdom of a pre-emptive U.S.-led attack on Iran, at a time when the U.S. is “bogged-down in Iraq,” adding that he has been “stunned by the incompetence” of the Bush administration in its handling of the war in Iraq.

Biden also defended his opposition to the The Kyl-Lieberman Iran amendment which called for labeling Iran’s Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization and passed by a vote of 76 – 22, saying that he didn’t want to help the government find a “pretext for war with Iran”, especially in light of what he described as the Bush administration’s inept handling of the war in Iraq. [...]

One clearly begins to understand, that there will never be pre-text for striking Iran according to Biden, as taking any sort of action whatsoever even if benign might be interpreted as yet another step towards such a strike, heaven’s forbid this is anathema to this ticket and that’s fine. American policy should be decided in America. But even the threat of a strike – The single piece of real leverage America has is clearly not in the cards.

Easy come, easy go Israel policy?

It brings in to question how strongly Biden or Obama would really support allied Israel if IT felt it needed to strike in the end, support Israel would need badly. Clearly these two take a backseat in their own words to no one, American Jews or AIPAC included, and certainly not Israel legitimately, which is a foreign sovereign country. But somehow I get the feeling allies will not be riding along in the backseat with these guys, more like in the trunk.

Obama himself has already made his views on The Likud quite clear. Apparently as long as we here in ‘Jerusalem’ choose to drive on J-Street, choose appeasement, or surrender, and the Meretz Peace platform ‘to endanger the state’ supported by 1% of our own population, we should be just fine in the buddy department under the New Democrats. Phew!

But what happens if that’s not what we decide?

In that case it is very comforting knowing that this ticket disparages AIPAC, the closest American organizational friend Israel has in America, its number one ally in the world. Why did Obama pander to AIPAC in the first place if it’s not important? Who was he trying to impress, clearly not Joe Biden. It is also comforting that Obama disparages the Likud, the largest political party representing the largest slice of the Israeli electorate for the last decade in Israel, where Israelis themselves get to ‘decide’.

AIPAC responds:

[...] Joe Biden is a strong supporter of the US-Israel relationship,” said AIPAC spokesman Josh Block in response to Biden’s statements. “He’s been a staunch supporter of US aid to Israel, a leader in the fight against Palestinian terrorism and is a vocal advocate of the special relationship between the two democracies,” he continued. “We look forward to continuing to work with him in the Senate or the White House,” should he win.

“Barack Obama and Joe Biden have both enjoyed close and effective cooperation with AIPAC over many years, grounded in their respect for its important mission to support Israel’s security and a strong US-Israel relationship,” Obama spokeswoman Wendy Morigi said in a statement released later Wednesday. “That is a mission they share, and they look forward to continuing to work closely with AIPAC on their common goals.” [...]

Biden’s Big Mouth & Obama’s Big Talk

These guys & their 300 policy advisers are baffled as to why they can’t secure more of the Jewish vote stateside, is it any wonder? What with them attacking the Likud, AIPAC and preaching the virtues of J-Street? The bigger question might be how they have secured any of the American Jewish vote at all! Both these men are Pro-Israel, but the more they talk the more one wonders which Israel it is they are supporting in this election, the one that is an American ally and depends on the good people of the USA, or the one that will win them the most votes?

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UPDATE (HT SD) – Biden should probably ease off, in light of this damaging exchange with Israel’s Peace negotiating Prime Minister Begin..

The quotes came out a few days ago but were unsubstantiated, my right word has done some fantastic digging to bring up the relevant facts.

The exchange is between Likud Prime Minister Menachem Begin of Israel, and a younger Senator Joe Biden in 1982 around the time of Operation Peace for the Galilee (Lebanon War I) in which Biden to get his way threatens TO CUT OFF AID TO ISRAEL and is chided in return by Begin for his fair weather friendship..

New York Times, June 24, 1982:

Reporting on his meetings with the members of Congress, Mr. Begin said one of the senators had threatened to cut off aid if Israel continued creating settlements in the West Bank. The senator is reported to have been Joseph R. Biden Jr., Democrat of Delaware,

Mr. Begin cited the incident to give voice to a feeling that is held in his entourage – that Israel has rendered military service to the United States in battle-testing American arms.

“Sir, do not threaten us with cutting aid,” Mr. Begin said, in recounting his reply. “First of all, you should know that this is not a one-way street. You help us, and we are very grateful for your help, but this is a two-way street. We do a lot for you.”

Indeed, Mr Biden a pro Israel senator may want to ease up on the AIPAC bashing and aid cutting, lest someone like me get the wrong idea and think an Obama/Biden ticket might be a disaster for Israel..

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UPDATE MORE LINKS
the memeo is on the story now, Rosner who seems to have left the comforts of Haaretz and spread his wings a bit ties into the J-Street theme, while the Huffington Post keeps desperately trying to get the Jews for Jesus meme going and smear Palin, too bad we’ve already been there and done that, with Obama turning out the loser.

  • In the case of J-Street, follow the money. One of the big money guys behind J-Street is Alan Solomont who is also a major fundraiser for Sen. Barack Obama.

    Or consider that one of the Republicans who supports Obama is John Chaffee who is also one of the folks on J-Street’s “masthead.”

    The Biden-Begin tiff looms larger now, doesn’t it?

  • I think it is a fortunate thing for their ticket this got buried in Palinmania because this was one of the 1st foot in mouth disease moments for Biden so far since his nomination last week.

    It is difficult subject to broach despite some glaring clarity as both tickets obviously have support of Israel in mind, and one of them will be in office. I keep coming back to the thought of Obama in the WH and the Likud controlling the Knesset, going to be cold in Israel despite the relentlees heat.

  • I agree with your post. Which is not something I will usually do! :) I enjoy reading a post that will make one think. Also, thanks for allowing me to comment!